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ABC’s Debate Sucked

Posted by Paul on April 17, 2008


It was awful, just absolutely disgusting. ABC News has managed to host the worst of the Democratic debates (and mind you there were 21 of them in contention). Almost 1 year after the first Democratic debate in South Carolina–a period long enough to designate this presidential season as a reality TV show–we have managed to move away from talking about serious issues and into the hands of a relentless media cycle.

Here’s the chronology of the first hour of questioning:
1. Any chance at a “Dream Ticket?”
2. “Bitter, much?”
3. “Do you think your opponent stands a chance against McCain?”
4. “What about Reverend Wright?”
5. “Wait. I have an even stupider question about Reverend Wright.”
6. “Seriously. Who were you fooling with that Bosnia shizz?”
7. “Hey, Hussein! Why no American flag lapel pin?”
9. “Hey, Sean Hannity wanted me to ask you something, Barack! I got a question on the Weather Underground! Maybe later we’ll talk about the Symbionese Liberation Army!”
–Huffington Post

Notice how 6 of the 8 are directed at Obama. Clinton only had to defend herself against the Bosnia craziness, while Obama had to answer questions on the Bittenerss remark, his realistic chances against McCain, Rev Wright, his patriotism, and the Ayre controversy (which only the right-wing media is bitching about but now will certainly be brought into the 24 hour news stream because it’s been baptized by the mainstream media as a legitimate story).

There is no doubt in my mind that Obama can, and rightfully should, defend himself against this criticism. He’s done an excellent job doing so. My issue is with ABC and how they felt compelled to bring up trivial political stories over issues. The reality is that Pennsylvania has lost a ton of manufacturing jobs because of NAFTA, health care in the state is in crisis and the housing market is in a shambles. Why did they only spend a half hour on these issues? Why did ABC decide to spend the duration of one hour criticizing Obama with trivial political stories over serious issue-oriented questions.

Never in the 21 debates has a network botched a debate this bad (and mind you I thought ABC was a respected news organization.)

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OVERWHELMING NEGATIVE REVIEWS:

All of these questions have been beaten to a pulp, grim death. And neither candidate really had anything new to add to the responses they’ve already offered time and time again. It was as if ABC News, left out of the twenty-four hour news cycle that spawned these zombo-droid queries, needed to get in their licks on the same matters, too, just so they could feel like they’d played a part in every last one of the primary season’s glittering inanities.
–Huffington Post

Continuing Debate: Looking around other sites, I guess I’m not the only one that thought this debate was unmitigated travesty. Maybe the embargo on debate rebroadcast was a pro-human rights stand.
–Talking Points Memo

The questioning in tonight’s debate–—mostly straight out of 1988—was an abomination… For those who think it’s great that Hillary Clinton won’t drop out, even though there’s no way she can win the nomination and her only hope is some bizarre destruction of Barack Obama between now and the convention, ponder the effects of tonight’s debate. The questions asked were not the kinds of questions Democratic primary voters care about. But they are the “gotcha” kinds of questions Republicans try to spring on Democrats in general elections.
–DailyKos

In the first 40 minutes of the debate, most of the questioning was on Obama’s negatives (except for a lone Bosnia-sniper question to Clinton) and that’s what helped create what was a near disastrous performance by Obama in those first 40 minutes. He was weak in a lot of his answers on his personal negatives. (Did he really compare Tom Coburn to a one-time ’60s radical/terrorist?) Clinton, meanwhile, piled on, particularly (and surprisingly, actually) on Ayers. While I’m not sure if Clinton’s piling on ever is good for her in the long run — see her current poll standing — it created some post-debate issues for Obama. Many news organizations will feel compelled to do Ayers stories in the next few days. While some may question the fairness and relevancy of the Ayers issue, it’s not going to be good for Obama.
–Chuck Todd, NBC News

In perhaps the most embarrassing performance by the media in a major presidential debate in years, ABC News hosts Charles Gibson and George Stephanopolous focused mainly on trivial issues as Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama faced off in Philadelphia. They, and their network, should hang their collective heads in shame.
–Greg Mitchell

Seriously “does rev. wright love america as much as you?” Really? REALLY?!!!

Also, “what will you do when clips” of Wright “play over an over” on TV? [...]

A woman asks if Obama “believes in the American flag” because he doesn’t wear a flag pin.

Charlie Gibson says that questions about the flag are “all over the internet” — along with Pamela Anderson’s sex tape, cats with bad grammar, and Rick Astley. Journalism at it’s finest. [...]

And now, we’re on to William Ayers. Gaaah. Obama says Ayer’s is someone Obama knows… says he’s also friendly with Tom Coburn who wants to give the death penalty to people who perform abortions. Attacks the whole idea of guilt by association, says “the American people are smarter than that.” [...]

The debate is 46 minutes in, and nothing remotely meaningful has been discussed.
–Sam Boyd

Obama is receiving unprecedented political and associational scrutiny here from ABC. Has he gotten a pass for the first 21 debates? Or is ABC going to precipitate a backlash? I’m getting lots of e-mail feedback from usually temperate Obama supporters, like: “This is the craziest thing i have ever seen. Did they take money from the Clinton campaign?” On the other hand, I can envision Clinton supporters saying to themselves, “Yeah, baby, now you know what it feels like.”
–Marc Ambinder

It’s 9:03, time for the first real question about the economy.
–Ben Smith, Politico
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I can’t post all of it… there’s more but it gets boring.

Check this out… this was all posted on ABC’s blog at exactly 11:57 PM from readers… I’ll only post the first few words because you can pretty much guess whats next:

1. Shame on ABC
2. SHAME ON YOU ABC!
3. Gas prices, housing market, War, the environment????……come on ABC News, you do know that we Americans actually have brains and care more about issues rather than Church leaders, and Bosnia lies.
4. I thought the questions should have stayed within areas of policy and not all this rev wright stuff I am tired of hearing about.
5. Mr. Gibson’s performance was unenightened and unenlightening
6. This was the worst debate I have ever seen.
7. Lousy debate that went over all the issues including Rev. Wright that I am tired of. Senator Clinton cannot honestly and fairly win this nomination and it is becoming a farce.
8. Americans lost tonight. ABC should be ashamed.
9. ABC your questions are shameful.
10. This was the most disgusting excuse for a “debate” I’ve ever seen in my life!
11. Shame on you, George Stephanopoulos, shame on you.
12. It’s truly astounding that Charles Gibson and George Stephanopoulis chose to spend the majority of tonight’s debate hammering Barack Obama on issues like flag pins and guilt by association with others.
13. WHAT a @#$#%@ waste of time.
14. You lost a view tonight ABC. Y
15. It is 8:49 Pacific time and you have yet to ask one question regarding the war, the economy, education,the environment, etc - this is the poorest job done by moderators yet.
16. You really should be embarrassed.
17. ABCNews should be ashamed of itself for tonight’s debate.
18. I actually took the time to register on this site, because I have been so appalled and worse, disheartened, by what I have seen of this debate.
19. I’ll try to be succinct: this Faux News inspired debate was a steaming pile of horse ####. People need to lose their jobs over this embarrassment.
20. A new low in “mainstream” journalism.

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Chris Dodd’s Plea

Posted by Paul on April 12, 2008

Help Retire the Campaign’s Debt:

“To those of you that supported my campaign, thank you. We could not have waged the ideas based campaign and raised over $15M without you. Unfortunately, we do have a debt to retire and I am grateful for your support.” — Chris Dodd

I find it funny that the old Dodd campaign wants people to donate to their nonexistant campaign.

It’s right on their website’s homepage, “help retire the campaign’s debt.” Why would someone contribute money to a dead campaign, what motivation is there?

This also begs the question of how much the Dodd campaign was left in debt. It certainly reveals that they outspent their means. And honestly for what?– 0% in the Iowa caucus?

I don’t like picking on Sen. Chris Dodd, after all, he did endorse Obama, but when I see a plea on his main webpage for campaign donations long after his long-shot bid for the presidency has ended, it makes you wonder who is actually going to contribute, and how much they were in the hole towards the end of it.

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Olympic boycott

Posted by Paul on April 9, 2008

It’s a dumb idea on behalf of Senator Clinton…

Two thoughts:

  1. Lets not forget the influence of China (should she be elected)… she’ll be the new President of the United States, and she would have decided to have boycotted the Beijing Olympics. The Olympics are revered by the Chinese people, an incredibly significant moment in their nation’s history, and they’ve invested huge amounts of money in building the infrastructure in a timely manner. The planning for this Olympic ceremony is impeccable. It makes me nervous, given the justification of boycotting their Olympics for human rights abuses, simply because of the international implications involved. They’re buying our debt, they have our bonds, and the only way were ever going to have a stable relationship with North Korea is through the Chinese.
  2. Simply, when you boycott the opening ceremony, it looks like you’re boycotting the athletes. Lets remember that all the athletes wear their nation’s flag with pride. Everything they do, all their training, all the preparation… the workout, the time, energy, and support–  everything these people invest in these games takes pride, hard work and endurance. And if the president, future or current, doesn’t stand with them in a demonstration of pride and confidence, it doesn’t need context, it just looks bad.

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Terry McAuliffe for Obama?

Posted by Paul on April 8, 2008

I would first like to apologize for taking a hiatus from posting. I had dental work done last week (still have more to do), and flew back to Philadelphia last Sunday. Spring Break is over : (

So here’s an interesting thing I’ve drudged up…

Terry McAuliffe, Hillary Clinton’s high profile campaign chairman, is posing for a picture with a gigantic Obama ‘08 sign, while he still wears his Clinton pin.

Is there a Hillary sign on the other side of the Obama sign? Were the Obama supporters being deceptive? Or is this some form of self-deprecating humor?

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Pennsyl-bama

Posted by Paul on April 2, 2008

Interesting story in Politico today on how Pennsylvania voters resent James Carville’s ‘Alabama’ comparison:

“People think it meant that basically there are two areas of the state where people can read and write and treat people with a certain amount of respect and the rest of the state is redneck trailer trash,” said Larry Ceisler, a Philadelphia public affairs consultant with ties to the Democratic Party. “It ended up being a slander on people who are living in those places. I would like to see the line retired.”

A quick observation: what are they saying about the state of Alabama?

Carville is a Clinton loyalist, but in his defense, he was referring to the strong socially conservative, churchgoing tradition in the sparsely dense center of the state. It’s not his fault that his analogy is so apt, nor that the people of Pennsylvania can’t control their narrow minded anti-Southern bias.

Seriously–the South isn’t incest-ridden, backwoods, redneck hillbilly trailor trash. If people are seriously taking offense to this comparison, then they should look at themselves and their own biases.

Also noteworthy, a Public Policy Institute poll has Obama taking the lead over Clinton in Pennsylvania, 45-43. I haven’t been able to look at the specifics of the poll, but based on precident, PPI has been better than most polls.

My nerves are a little shocked, I’m getting a root canal in about an hour so wish me luck!

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